smeargut posted: 11 Nov at 11:31 pm
watch ya fingers with the nail gun G’s sends a chill down my spine yea these pocket screws seem weak just a flat screw from the opposite direction from the back will hold alot more the screw is holding alot more of the meat of the timber the pocket screw seems to hold very little meat of the timber looks cool and fancy tho maybe for smaller and less durable furniture lt would be ok ps i finish my carpentry trade this month yewwwww.
furnituredecoreasy posted: 12 Nov at 12:09 am
It’s interesting to see someone build a furniture in front of our eyes
ows246 posted: 12 Nov at 12:24 am
mmm, my father got a factory, but we do alot of things different, because of the demand of the cnsumer budget , sofor example instead of solid wood strips at the back we might mke a plywood back.
Making Doors is different too xD,
Xanre83 posted: 12 Nov at 12:31 am
@moses0051 agreed, all you old wood workers out there don’t even consider the new methods used now are just as good if not better than the old ones.
Xanre83 posted: 12 Nov at 1:10 am
@daflyingkiwi you should look up and read about pocket hole screws.. done right it is about as strong as a mortise and tenon.
strapen2good posted: 12 Nov at 1:27 am
Thanks ebsmedia, very stimulating and informative video!
rootsxrocks posted: 12 Nov at 1:40 am
@moses0051 A through mortice and tenon pegged will last 2000 years
woodlist posted: 12 Nov at 2:37 am
This is pocket-hole screw ‘joinery’. You would be surprised how strong this can be. I have a layout bench made using these screws, and believe me it’s still going strong after three years continual use. I did it for speed and convenience. Just the reasons these folk use pocket-hole joinery. For me it meant I could get on with some proper furniture making. As for this video, with normal treatment this wardrobe should last quite a few years. So research before you comment folks.
1too3fore posted: 12 Nov at 2:44 am
@theliquidgroove Who cares? I’m not planning on buying anything these guys make so it doesn’t really matter! LOL!
theliquidgroove posted: 12 Nov at 3:42 am
@1too3fore I’ll agree with that statement too, but unfortunately everything now is about the bottom line, how much money can people put in their pockets.
driepintenbier posted: 12 Nov at 4:02 am
I learn to make baroue style furniture by hand. My first job 30 years ago in a caravan company use the same assembly like this video. The company fail because all the caravan is broken.
moses0051 posted: 12 Nov at 4:12 am
@daflyingkiwi obviously you have never made pocket hole joinery. It IS more secure than any other method. Especially when coupled with glue. Think about it. Whats more likely to hold together, glued joints or glued and double screwed joints? Not to mention the time cost and skill required to do it. Everyone wants to think they have a special skill. Sorry, anyone can do it.
TheGligs posted: 12 Nov at 4:12 am
Piece of shit…
HubertHoratio posted: 12 Nov at 5:00 am
I’d just like to register my amazement that “carcase” can refer to furniture.
micgogh posted: 12 Nov at 5:37 am
Thank you so much
gwoloshyn posted: 12 Nov at 6:31 am
@ejs619 Your right. This seems like a very high production shop and if I was the owner, I would be doing things the same way. This shop isn’t building fine furniture but probably more stuff for the big box stores and time=money.
gentlemandude posted: 12 Nov at 7:05 am
This is some of the worst woodworking I’ve ever seen. Sadly, lots of people pay top dollar for crap like that.
bodfish1996 posted: 12 Nov at 7:50 am
U really don’t no anything do u ???????
punjedi posted: 12 Nov at 8:07 am
For those saying that dowels and biscuits have no strength should actually watch the videos on stress testing between different joinery styles. It really comes down to look and intention. How clean do you want your surfaces? How long do you want it to last? Material costs play a big part in a production shop as well.
As far as strength, I am 215 lbs and I built a small chair with nothing but glue and dowels. I can jump up and down on it with no cracking or seperating. Alignment helps too.
1too3fore posted: 12 Nov at 8:48 am
dovetails don’t take any time, neither does fine craftsmanship, laziness and shoddy work is what has caused the downfall and general disgrace of the trades.
ejs619 posted: 12 Nov at 8:59 am
Some people have don’t have the time for hand-cut dovetails and mortise and tenons…you feel me?
arsdag81 posted: 12 Nov at 9:48 am
look up Festool’s “Domino Joiner”, they use solid hardwood “domino” shaped biscuits and are just as strong as a traditional mortise and tenon.
DLBBAM posted: 12 Nov at 10:37 am
@ adeisace dowels and biscuits dont provide strength, but they do help tremendously in alligning things and keeping them allingned -which is difficult when gluing up panels. The gule joint is very strong, especially with modern glues. I love joinery, but unfortunately its not always practical to use the best way.
1too3fore posted: 12 Nov at 10:49 am
classic joinery beats this any day
mithrandir10001 posted: 12 Nov at 11:46 am
Actually, I think the construction used on this is significantly better than the knock-down fasteners used on furniture that comes in a box. Those always end up needing to be re-tightened periodically. At least they were using glue. No, it’s not furniture for the ages, but it definitely has it’s place.
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